Heyshell Games Forum

Title: [Strategy][S17 ChaosAge]Non VIP and Low VIP Defeating GuoJia? [Print this page]

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-1-25 23:11
Title: [Strategy][S17 ChaosAge]Non VIP and Low VIP Defeating GuoJia?
For Non VIP or low VIP, defeating GuoJia is not a dream anymore since after crusade and another stuff now low VIP also can pass GuoJia map not far different from VIP player. My Acc is VIP 0 from S17 Wu, and me already get GuoJia about 1 Month Ago..

[attach]1558[/attach]
Do you know different between VIP and non VIP is in how to manage gold. For low or non VIP i suggest u to focusing in Worship iron daily and gem instead of using gold to refine. Use free refine for searching good option and advance refine from crusade for up equipment lvl. In GuoJia Map, only 2 hero need Skill Atk, that is Dian Wei and TaiShi Chi. Ganning, XuChu and Xhdun full playing in atk. For low VIP usually we just have a few hidden equipment 4* but that give us advantage because we can focus making equipment that contain only related with atk 2 from 3 for all equipment, and skill atk atk for dwei and taishi chi.Here is my photo of my acc one month after i get guojia. When i get guojia my Arma lvl is 103 60 62 65 37 20, with gem lvl is 11 9 7 11 8 5, with 19 Star polish only. Equipment hidden is Atk 4* 3 pc, Skill atk 1pc, and Troops 1pc, i give that hidden atk in XuChu to kill 1st whole npc and 2nd npc skill atk, Skill atk for DWei, troops for XhDun, then other equipment i use all option is atk-skillatk-skill atk or skill atk3 or atk atk troops only in all my equipment instead of using another hidden like block, ironwall and another.

[attach]1557[/attach][attach]1559[/attach]
This Few preparation Tips from me :
1.For Armament focus in Top Atk untill reach max level. Then go for bottom atk armament.
2.For Liege only TsChi and DWei that related with skill atk, other hero focus on atk liegement.
3.Foostering focus in TsChi and DWei if can because DWei will used for long time, and TsChi till ZhouYu map.
4.If meet terrain map except Cao-cao divide skill atk for Tschi and DWei, use formation XuChu DWei Ganning Tschi XhDun, if last npc non terrain then use XuChu XhDun Ganning Tschi DWei.
5. Give Horcux in right hero. Give DianWei Strom horcux if wanna wipeout non terrain hero or wipeout cao cao, then resisten follow npc type. Strom at least lv 6 (12%)
6.Pray before Hit NPC hope we blocking NPC skill and we success in casting skill.
7.If cant wipeout NPC in trial tower Stage 5. 25 using DWei mean still cant wipeout Cao-cao so better make it stronger first before try again..
8.Remember to always manual pilot, cast XuChu before npc skill, cast DWei when Dwei left 1 row, GanNing in non Terrain or better not cast skill.
I suggest armament higher than my acc armament,since my acc hard passing GuoJia at that time, need many time try and this wasting alot of soul. Better wait 1 Month but no soul wasted..
Main reason why we use this form is for non terrain, DianWei can wipeout last npc before they turn by left DWei lifepoint fewest as possible like in my photo. For Cao-cao, his special is splashing his damage into back row like Zhang fei special tallent. If your DWei not as strong as mine, in this stage can try using formation XuChu XhDun, Ganning, DWei, Tschi. Saving DWei skill n cast it in Cao-cao then TsChi also cast Cao-cao. From All Npc only Pang De and Cao-cao hard from my point of View
If you high VIP then can using another way to win, by using average in armament make it top 70 all n bottom 60 all and give Gem lvl 10 10 10 10 9 9. Can pass easier if have ZhenJi by using combo ZhenJi Tschi or Zhen Ji Dwei to wipeout npc.
Last Word From Me is GooDLuck and Enjoy ur time playing, hope also can enjoy GuoJia Soon.. If u cant pass GuoJia Yet Not Because U Weak, but because U still unlucky or maybe still need to up some other before get it..

...

Author: Stelumvict Time: 2015-1-25 23:23
ty chaosage....have a nice fight in s17.

Author: jody Time: 2015-1-25 23:58
nice advice and good explanation

jody
shu
s7

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-1-26 00:10
thanks Jody.. GoodLuck in Getting GuoJia.. Yeah hv a nc fight stelum n hope u get it too Soon..

So later map full of GuoJia then XHDun will start used again.. haha..
Btw i forget 1 more thing.. If can reach cao-cao mean can pass till 5-24 trial tower, so move trial tower for better soul and exp..

Author: Sbs Time: 2015-1-26 23:50
One question why your money 317? If you not vip

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-1-27 00:16
lol money here mean how u active in forum not ur vip lvl... U can see in my post, my acc is VIP 0 Pure.. hahahah... If me VIP acc should be much stronger than now..

Author: Sbs Time: 2015-1-27 00:31
Ooo i see thanks for your info

Author: jody Time: 2015-1-29 04:19
hey chaosage, u r one of the winner..
congratz bro

jody
shu
s7

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-1-29 14:35
thanks Jody ;) hope also help ppl pass Guojia.. ;)

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-1-29 14:36
thanks Jody ;) hope also help ppl pass Guojia.. ;) Soon i will try ZhouYu map. Haha.. Help pray can pass fast too.. ;)

Author: Stelumvict Time: 2015-1-31 04:01
CONGRATZ chaos....see u in tourney! Have a nice game.. btw u win for what anyway

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-1-31 11:30
Winning 200 gold from making guide for guojia.. Yeah we meet in first battle Stelum

Author: Stelumvict Time: 2015-2-1 00:16
WOW great result chaos...congratz again you deserved it!!! cause i'm following your guide to get gjia... wish me luck.. btw i missed tourney today againt wu17 cause some problems. ok see u in battle field but dont take me to jail

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-2-1 09:23
hahah i love send u in jail stelum.. ;) rank 8 or... good exp

i join 1st battle but missed 2nd tourney.. nice war with ur country, even win ur country still keep eye in all city so our wu cant steal any city.. Haha.. hv number but still good coordination..

Author: kimi123 Time: 2015-3-21 19:38
may i ask in what terrain are we fighting guojia? is it city? coz for d.wei i noticed that altought d.wei is mountain hero, we fought him in a city...please enlighten

Author: kukumi(s22) Time: 2015-3-22 18:26
Shu S22/S21 are very2 stupid love to cheat eat Iron and Farm exp 50% everyday everynight..during event time siege its hard for wei and wu to win when Shu start auto and use Clones to lure and auto off 3 id's maybe more shu reach 100 gens.. wei only have 60 gens sometimes 70.. wu have 50 gens how can wu and wei will able to win that event when shu start to cheat with their stupid asses faggots..
with ur clones shu ur nothing.. Let me say his name who loves to cheat..
OWNER- ZhaoYun
1.Zhao3Yun
2.Zhaoyun
3.EvoZhaoYun

GM Arthur i know that u cant block who have VIP BUT WE ARE TIRED OF SPENDING FOR THIS SHIT..
so do ur Fuckin job to check all Clones Shu S22/S21..

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-3-22 23:08
in guojia 2 hardest enemy is located in Plain. save 2 superjade that contain skill atk skill atk for dwei and tschi.. In Jiaxu and Caocao, i suggest give strongest skill atk in Dwei, and relly on Dwei to Kill JiaXu and cao cao to kill them in 1 skill atk, by left ur dwei only 1 row before cast skill atk.. max in Armament atk and good in piloting now enough for gjia.. Previous time, me still no super jade or another stuff, but i already can wipeout Cao cao using DWei skill atk.. just rmbr good fooster on dwei, high atk n skill atk n super jade.. In the End Good Luck For U.. ;) Luck is best matter kimi..

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-3-22 23:11
kokumi, try login S16 if see just 100 gen is easy to reach. haha... even Shu s17 single more than 150 gen active in event while Wu just maybe 50 n Wei 20.. Now after merge not only 150 gen, they crowded like ants.. But that's reality, Shu hv most people play by nature.. They like Shu based on history.. we just can bite finger, waiting GM or heyshell oso not used ithink, just make u mad n cant fell fun in playing game..

Author: jimny Time: 2015-3-30 23:35
guys may I ask,
normally need lvl?
to defeat guojia.
& how many initiative to pass guojia.
thanks.

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-3-31 14:39
i pas s guojia same times with when i got ZLiao, but i lvling very fast so lvl cant be measurement to know lvl pass.. initiative not oso good sign for pass, i get gjia with 5200 init when no supertrinket, with super trinket can get much easier.
For simple way, when DWei fooster reach atk max, liege for dwei more than 800 skill atk, Armament atk top is 100++ bottom 70, hv all equiptment will atk/skill atk, and have 1 super jade with skill atk skill atk for dwei, and you have luck, you can pass it Jimny.. Dont forget horcux Storm at least 14%..

Author: SaistSean Time: 2015-3-31 16:12
Thx Elder Chaos.

SaistSean
Shu 21

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-3-31 22:05
Success get it Seis? maybe if already get can update my information so people can know requirement to pass GJia since my information already out to date, now some new stuff come make cleaning GuoJia easier now... Haha.. After GuoJia, prepare ur path into ZhouYu map by uping Atk into max and some in troops, prepare ur gjia, ganning/ water hero, and DWei. I pass Zhouyu use arma lv 107 83 67 99 57 51, init around 5300 with storm lvl 10.. USe Jian Yi forum formation good enough for VIP, if non VIP arrangement will bit different. Since me non VIP so way to pass bit differ. Hahaha Good Luck..

Author: JazNoob Time: 2015-5-30 05:53
Pray.. i will get to..

Author: FockYerDodder Time: 2015-5-30 08:36

the problem is
1st i don't have any gold left

2nd i don't even get dian wei

Author: WangJi Time: 2015-6-8 19:20
i have Zhen Ji, but i dont understand what must i do with her ? can anybody help me ?

Author: FockYerDodder Time: 2015-6-8 22:32

WangJi replied at 2015-6-8 19:20
i have Zhen Ji, but i dont understand what must i do with her ? can anybody help me ?

have you try to propose her then ask to marry?

Author: ChaosAge Time: 2015-7-25 10:25
Zhen Ji help boosting ur hero atk, skill atk, and oso defend.. When i helping my friend, i put ZJi in front of Dwei, n let Z Ji left 1 troop then cast skill for boosting Dwei.

Author: TajimaShin Time: 2015-12-18 05:51
Can I ask how to reach high foster levels, using normal, medium or advance foster?

Author: FockYerDodder Time: 2015-12-18 14:02

TajimaShin replied at 2015-12-18 05:51
Can I ask how to reach high foster levels, using normal, medium or advance foster?

new recruited hero when foster 0% use normal until around one third bar
after that try use medium until one half bar or maybe two third bar
the rest using advance

Author: TajimaShin Time: 2015-12-18 22:26

FockYerDodder replied at 2015-12-18 14:02
new recruited hero when foster 0% use normal until around one third bar
after that try use medium ...

Ok thank you

Author: Stelumvict Time: 2015-12-18 22:52
ty Chaos for your guide...

Author: TajimaShin Time: 2015-12-18 23:38
Edited by TajimaShin at 2015-12-18 23:42

FockYerDodder replied at 2015-12-18 14:02
new recruited hero when foster 0% use normal until around one third bar
after that try use medium ...

One last thing, what's C.Attack Absolute Damage and Skill Absolute Damage?

Author: FockYerDodder Time: 2015-12-19 10:17

TajimaShin replied at 2015-12-18 23:38
One last thing, what's C.Attack Absolute Damage and Skill Absolute Damage?

common attack absolute damage is a normal attack which by passing level, let's say your hero(s) whom wear liegeman which gave c.absolute damage xxx can deal xxx damage to guardsman at 50% city enemies near capital
and skill absolute damage is around the same,hero can deal absolute damage to guardsman at 50% city enemies near capital if not blocked

Author: TajimaShin Time: 2015-12-20 09:27

FockYerDodder replied at 2015-12-19 10:17
common attack absolute damage is a normal attack which by passing level, let's say your hero(s) wh ...

So absolute attack is just against guardians near enemy capital?

Author: FanofBabes Time: 2015-12-20 10:50

TajimaShin replied at 2015-12-20 09:27
So absolute attack is just against guardians near enemy capital?

Hi,

What he is trying to say is when you clash with or skill cast for e.g. lvl150 guards.
If you are lvl100 by right your skill cast dmg or hit dmg should be 1.
With Absolute C.atk / skill dmg. The base will be increased to w/e is stated like 235 or 185.
Which means you will NOT hit below 235 with skill cast nor 185 with common dmg.

Author: TajimaShin Time: 2015-12-20 10:58

FanofBabes replied at 2015-12-20 10:50
Hi,

What he is trying to say is when you clash with or skill cast for e.g. lvl150 guards.

Oh ok. I wished it was something like damage that ignores defense for every enemy. But thanks.

Author: FockYerDodder Time: 2015-12-20 13:10

TajimaShin replied at 2015-12-20 10:58
Oh ok. I wished it was something like damage that ignores defense for every enemy. But thanks.

how to explain it...
for sure it is bypassing level so your damage not ONE but the same amount how much the absolute give to your heroes

Author: Koandres Time: 2016-2-23 19:50
To pass cao cao,att need min 3600, 3700, or 3800?

Author: amrik Time: 2016-4-5 20:53
Here some tips from me to get gjia based on my gen.

Now I'm level 99 with armament is 55 55 55 35 35 35. My Gems is 11, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10
My gens is
A. Wenji (Horcrux Storm lv 10 or 20%), Foster 50%. Equip is all level 5 with dominant "Attack"
B. Da Qiao (Horcrux Deffend lv. 5 or 10%), Foster 50%. Equip is all level 5 with dominan "trick"
C. M Y Lu (Horcrux MEchanization lv. 5 or 10%), Foster 50%. Equip is all level 5 with dominan "trick" and "attack"
D. Xchu with foster 50%. Equip is all level 5 with all immu.
E. D. Wei with foster 50%. equip is all level 5 with dominant "trick"

Batalion
Zhoutai level 75, with foster 50%,

Ok lets begin...

Stage ZangBa until stage Xunyou my winning team is :

Da qiao is my great blocker ( her skill attack can make enemy cannot cast skill), and can block second enemy gen.
Xchu is my "Rhino". after Da Qiao block 2nd gen, if his skill not blocked, he will beat 2nd gen with 1 or 1,5 row only.
Dwei is my "real man". after xchu die when cast skill 3rd enemy gen, use Dwei with manual. Only use his skill at last row to give blow hit.
M Y Lu is my "Xena". her will beat 4th gen with easy. same with Dwei, just use her skill at last row to give effect (reduce 5th gen troops)
Wenji is my "Queen". Wenji will finishing with sleep. just need 1 or 2 row.
M Y Lu (all terrain 20%, include terrain plain) it's make me easy pas every plain maps.

Xun Yu Stage
Just replace Xchu with Zhoutai, the starting is Da Qiao, Dwei, M Y Lu, Wenji and Zhoutai. Give horcrux mechanization to Zhoutai.

Jia Xu Stage is same with before Xun Yu Stage.

Cao Cao Stage
it's the hardest stage, right?

must watch, that 3rd gen or 4th gen of enemy is "blocker" type, so in this stage need a little modification.
- Xchu place at the 1st gen, only with 1 condition. His skill must in to enemy. maybe just hit 1, but not damage, the most important is, enemy cannot skill. If xchu skill blocked, it's mean hopeles

- Wenji 2nd place. with xchu skill hit enemy, he can beat 1st enemy gen until 1st row 2nd enemy gen. if xchu success block 2nd enemy gen, he will crash 2nd gen until 3 rows, it will be Wenji's job more easy.
- Da Qiao. When Wenji hit half of 2nd gen and half of 3rd gen, she will be die, except she can block 3rd gen skill. unfortunatelly, my "Quen" is quiet for block

Da Qiao use skill when 3rd gen of enemy left 1 row. so she can hit with smile for 4th enemy gen. when last row of 4th enemy gen skill, must pray to god Da Qiao will block him. if not block, prepare for M Y Lu.
- M Y Lu. she will bleeding accept skill from 4th enemy gen. I use her skill when 1st chance. she success hit 2 rows of Cao cao. Thanks for God, M Y Lu have plain terrain, so she can give a little bit for cao cao.
- D wei. Honnestly, he is a great finisher. because cao cao hit my gen is 2 row, use Dwei skill at last row. it can cao cao crying

That's my experience to get Gjia.

Author: FanofBabes Time: 2016-4-5 21:30

amrik replied at 2016-4-5 20:53
Here some tips from me to get gjia based on my gen.

Now I'm level 99 with armament is 55 55 55 35 ...

With M Y Lu till luxun its ez pz..
Not to mention u got 3 ladies that help so much..

Author: amrik Time: 2016-5-19 13:40

FanofBabes replied at 2016-4-5 21:30
With M Y Lu till luxun its ez pz..
Not to mention u got 3 ladies that help so much..

yeah.. so lucky one

Author: PondanG Time: 2016-5-26 08:58
Thank you for your advice

Author: ZhongLi Time: 2016-6-30 13:00
really nice guide. to the point, simple to understand and follow. thank you.

Author: hokseng Time: 2016-7-6 16:28
And me! I have Wenji, Da Qiao, TS Chi, D wei, and Xu Chu but I can't not pass Cao Cao! I lost many times. So What should I do or Choose Hero?? Pls tell me now. Thank you so much

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-7-6 19:14

hokseng replied at 2016-7-6 16:28
And me! I have Wenji, Da Qiao, TS Chi, D wei, and Xu Chu but I can't not pass Cao Cao! I lost many t ...

I would try Xu Chu, Wenji, D. Wei, Da Qiao, Tai Shi Ci. But this will work only if Da Qiao will chaos Cao Cao and your Tai Shi Ci is able to kill at least half of Cao with skill. The usual approach to this stage when I got my Guo Jia (about year and half ago) was Xu Chu, Xia Hou Dun, Gan Ning, Dian Wei and Tai Shi Ci, but back then we had no chariot, weaponry and star atlas. The trick was to let Dian Wei release hs skill into last row of fourth NPC from his last row, then get him killed by remnants of fourth NPC, block Cao with Tai Shi Ci, then skill him and if lucky kill what has left of him. But by far this is the most difficult stage in special instances which I passed.

Author: hokseng Time: 2016-7-7 14:22

Corvinus replied at 2016-7-6 19:14
I would try Xu Chu, Wenji, D. Wei, Da Qiao, Tai Shi Ci. But this will work only if Da Qiao will ch ...

How Could I put My hero? which one is first? And, I should change Da Qiao to XH Dun or not?

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-7-7 15:12
Edited by Corvinus at 2016-7-7 15:14

hokseng replied at 2016-7-7 14:22
How Could I put My hero? which one is first? And, I should change Da Qiao to XH Dun or not?

I suggested some formations above, so try each and you will see which one works best, the order is exactly as it is written, so place Xu Chu ALWAYS first as he will lock first NPC´s skill. But the stage is very difficult and all depends on how strong are your generals, what horcruxes you are using and so on. Unfortunately I wrote strategies only for Zhou Yu, Lu Xun and Sun Ce, so I do not remember exactly how I beat Cao Cao. I know only I didn´t have any special hero and I already had rebound damage horcrux, which helps a lot here.

Author: hokseng Time: 2016-7-12 16:15

Corvinus replied at 2016-7-7 15:12
I suggested some formations above, so try each and you will see which one works best, the order is ...

ok thank you so much. I'll try again and again

Welcome to Heyshell Games Forum (http://bbs.heyshell.com/)