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Author: Daveltl76 Time: 2016-8-8 23:04
Title: [STRATEGY][Dave.s39/s37][Easily defeating Sun Jian]
Edited by Daveltl76 at 2016-8-9 12:41

Hi guys, it's me Dave from s37 again. This time, I'm going to share some information about Sunjian map, hope it will be useful ^^!
Sunjian map include 7 plain, 2 city, 1 water (too bad my zfei doesn't suit this map).
I was at Trial Tower floor 10 stage 17 when fight

* Ok, let's look at my stats
Arma: Max 143 (finally

)
  Gems: all crystal 2* (or all lvl13)
  Horc: same as Jiang Wei map: storm 26%, tactic 22%, rebound 25%, cavalry 10%, and def
  Chariot: Flame lvl1 - 0%

** Hero to use (attack/def/troops); trinket; equips; horc.
1. Goujia (lvl109); 7734/3980/11999; super lantern 23; 6 immu; tactic 22% all stage
2. Zhugeliang (lvl100): 8016/3966/11931; slotted 18, tiger suit, defend horc (it's useless), all stage
3. Zhaoyun (lvl107): 7653/4329/12108; super lantern 23; 6 immu; storm 26% all stages (except water)
      Zhouyu (lvl114): 7653/4294/11996; take everything of zhaoyun, water stage only
4. Luxun mix equips not really important, only need his fire
5. Sunce (lvl100): 7330/3792/13996; slotted 17 (I'm vip6 hihi); dragon suit; rebound 25% all stage
bonus Liubei 10% attack in battalion , got him after Jiang Wei map

***staratlast
Goujia and Zhaoyun (zhouyu for water fight) - tiger 5
Zhugeliang - dragon 12
Luxun. Sunce - dragon 5

****Stage 1-7: Lineup Goujia-Zhugeliang-Zhaoyun (zhouyu water)-luxun-sunce
   Goujia rebound 1-2; zhuge buff, Zhaoyun (zhouyu) clear the rest

   Stage 8-9-10: same lineup
   Goujia rebound 1-2,
   Zhuge clear 2, skill before 3rd npc up, buff zhaoyun,
   Zhaoyun clear 3-4, left some depend on block or not (no block still left 1 row)
   If take all npc skill, then Luxun skill last row, sunce clear

P/s: because I never train and foster Smayi so I use goujia for all stage
   It should be easier if u train Simayi (maybe u don't need 6immu on him to block 2 heroes)

I passed all stage with 1 attempt only. it's pretty easy; u just need to up ur lvl, then all can enjoy sunjian talent

~PEACE~

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-8-9 03:34
Why the fcuk you use def hrcrx as an attacker? Thanx for info anyway. It's really helpfull for preparation. I plan to use Zhuge-Guo-Sima combo in this instance.

Author: Daveltl76 Time: 2016-8-9 12:27

Corvinus replied at 2016-8-9 03:34
Why the fcuk you use def hrcrx as an attacker? Thanx for info anyway. It's really helpfull for prepa ...

I know def horcrux is useless lol

But it doesn't matter on zhugeliang, only need his buff ^^

Author: KM™ Time: 2016-8-9 13:30
congratx dave. i like sun jian too. We all know we just need immu to win this instance easy. I wonder u r not using awaken zfei? thx for info though. How many plain and water terrain?

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-8-9 14:39

Daveltl76 replied at 2016-8-9 12:27
I know def horcrux is useless lol
But it doesn't matter on zhugeliang, only need his buff ^^

Aaaah now I understand. But I think better use of Zhuge is eat skill of first NPC (or block) then release skill from his last row to buff Guo Jia and after Guo dies immediately use double chaos skill on next NPC, the rest two generals finish the job.

Author: Daveltl76 Time: 2016-8-9 19:29

KM™ replied at 2016-8-9 13:30
congratx dave. i like sun jian too. We all know we just need immu to win this instance easy. I wonde ...

Thanks bro!
7 plain 2 city 1 water, last 3 stage all plain,their skill is hard, about 1/3 to 1/2 troops (on Zhaoyun storm), if use zfei, maybe will be wipe lol, better not use,
Zhaoyun can take both 3rd and 4th npc skill then clear them left at least half row

,
6immu also ok, u can use Smayi instead of goujia; I don't train Simayi so need some help from second immu set on goujia

)
Hope u reach lvl143 soon Kongming

Author: Daveltl76 Time: 2016-8-9 19:35

Corvinus replied at 2016-8-9 14:39
Aaaah now I understand. But I think better use of Zhuge is eat skill of first NPC (or block) then ...

im not sure that focusing on which hero is better, goujia or zhaoyun
that way sound good, cuz u focus goujia tank; but plain capacity 25% on Zhaoyun is also a lot
Maybe u can test first

, i cant say for sure ^^

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-8-9 19:38
Edited by Corvinus at 2016-8-9 19:40

Daveltl76 replied at 2016-8-9 19:35
im not sure that focusing on which hero is better, goujia or zhaoyun
that way sound good, cuz u fo ...

Yes I understand your point, but Guo needs no blocking and I suppose his attack will be higher than 8100 when I enter Sun Jian instance. Have 7914 @mmnt. My gens should be Zhuge, Guo, Sima, Zhao Yun and Sun Ce in this instance. But I just reached lvlv 135 so its long road to go.

Author: Daveltl76 Time: 2016-8-9 19:50

Corvinus replied at 2016-8-9 19:38
Yes I understand your point, but Guo needs no blocking and I suppose his attack will be higher than ...

It's hard to up lvl at ur country and server, too many ppl
I remember, u was 128 when I released J.Wei thread (lvl133) -->> 5lvl difference
But now u r 135 while im 143-->> 8lvl difference, also higher lvl, need more exp
All because of plunder

Author: Hendy_wizard Time: 2016-8-10 17:44
According to my experience in here I need Guan Yu, especially his critical talent. If we have immu or suit related to immu, it is as easy as pie in this time elite inst. But if we don't have any set of immu we'll need higher attack and defense. Anyway thanks for the sharing. Really appreciate it.

Author: Stelumvict Time: 2016-8-11 20:54
The only strategy are Z.yun with full immu + Z.G liang Buff + strom... its easy and simple

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-9-29 22:42
Reading this after month and half is making me smiling. Now my average attack is 8411 with two generals having over 8600 (Guo Jia and Jiang Wei) so this is gonna be a piece of cake for me. I just need to do three more levels.

Author: Afrooo Time: 2016-9-30 09:54
You always write the best guides Dave. Your Jiang Wei guide got me J.Wei within a day off me getting to level 133. Keep up the good work mate.

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-11-14 14:56
Edited by Corvinus at 2016-11-14 15:19

Just got Sun Jian two days ago. This was real joke and pretty easy in fact. As I went through instance one try one pass and most of the time needed only 2 generals (Zhuge Liang + Guo Jia), I won´t write my own strategy, just give here few tips.

My constant formation was : Zhuge Liang (Formidable Troops +11%), Guo Jia (Storm +30%), Sima Yi (Resistance according to type of troops +20%), Sun Ce (rebound damage +27%) and Zhao Yun (Resistance according to type of troops +20%).

Average attack 8500 (Guo Jia 8860 full Immu Suit, Storm + 30%, superlantern, +3+3 Liegeman combo, Tiger 4 SA and Red Armory weapon + Yellow Armory weapon, Lead + 90 Force +97), Average defense 4100, average troops 13500. Zhao Yun had 5 full Immu equip pieces. Attack is buffed by Liu Bei in Battalion. But I think this would be easy even without Liu Bei´s bonus.

The main trick of course was to buff Guo Jia from 4th row of Zhuge Liang. I went through first 8 stages with only Zhuge Liang and Guo Jia. 9th stage I needed Sima to work and in final stage Sun Ce finished Sun Jian, so my Zhao Yun didn´t have to fight at all. People with weaker Guo Jia can try Sima, Zhuge, Guo, Sun Ce, Zhao Yun and try to lock first two NPC´s with Sima, then use Zhuge´s buff on Guo, which should guarantee at least two generals against final bosses.

Definitely go for Sun Jian, it is one of the best generals I ever have in my battalion. I make him into tank so now I have Sun Jian with full Immu suit, 30% Storm and Lead 81 Force 114 (Superlantern, +3 +3 Liegeman combo, Tiger 5 Star Atlas and Red Armory weapon. Once buffed by Zhuge, he is real destroyer.

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-11-15 23:27
I'm lv 140 now. Hope to reach 143 in a month or so. But my atk is low just around 7.4k. I will try Smyi Zhuge Gjia formation.

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-12-22 16:12

Corvinus replied at 2016-11-14 14:56
Just got Sun Jian two days ago. This was real joke and pretty easy in fact. As I went through instan ...

I'm lv 143 now but stucking at sunjian stage8 (HGai). Maybe I'm still weak. My formation: Gjia Zgl Zyun (full immu+storm) Luxun Sunce.

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-12-22 16:58

secrettask replied at 2016-12-22 16:12
I'm lv 143 now but stucking at sunjian stage8 (HGai). Maybe I'm still weak. My formation: Gjia Zgl ...

What is H.Gai special ability ?

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-12-22 19:22

Corvinus replied at 2016-12-22 16:58
What is H.Gai special ability ?

Npc4 is splitter, HGai is dodger like zyun.

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-12-22 22:01

secrettask replied at 2016-12-22 19:22
Npc4 is splitter, HGai is dodger like zyun.

First, I wouldn´t use Sun Ce against dodger or splitter. As I can remember your Sima is weak but you can try to lock first one or two NPC with Sima, or get sima in front of H.Gai then after lock him use Zhao Yun´s plains assault as dodger cannot dodge clash damage.

So I would try these (if you insist on Zhao Yun as Immu hero) :

Sima Yi (or Sun Ce), Guo Jia, Lu Xun (firing into splitter), Zhuge Liang (who must block H.Gai), Zhao Yun or

Sun Ce, Zhuge Liang, Guo Jia, Sima Yi (or Lu Xun), Zhao Yun.

I do not know how far you can get if make Guo Jia into tank so try also :

Sima Yi, Zhuge Liang, Guo Jia, Lu Xun, Zhao Yun.

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-12-22 23:09

Corvinus replied at 2016-12-22 22:01
First, I wouldn´t use Sun Ce against dodger or splitter. As I can remember your Sima is weak but ...

I tried SmYi, Zhuge, Gjia (full immu+storm), Luxun, Zyun. Best try is HGai remain 1 row. I use Plain Assault on HGai but he still can dodge. Since Zyun no storm, it's hard to win HGai, 1vs1.

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-12-22 23:40

Corvinus replied at 2016-12-22 22:01
First, I wouldn´t use Sun Ce against dodger or splitter. As I can remember your Sima is weak but ...

Now I won HGai with SmYi, Zhuge, Gjia(full immu+storm), Luxun, Zyun. Luxun block HGai skill and burn 1 time on HGai.

Now stage9, NPC4 talent is like Dwei and CPu talent is like GuanYu and very strong.

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-12-23 00:06

Corvinus replied at 2016-12-22 22:01
First, I wouldn´t use Sun Ce against dodger or splitter. As I can remember your Sima is weak but ...

OMG, I won CPu now. I used SmYi, Zhuge, Gjia (storm+full immu), Zjiao, Zyun. Zjiao block Cpu and skill on 3 row of Cpu. Zyun kill Cpu with 500 troop left.

Author: secrettask Time: 2016-12-23 01:15

Corvinus replied at 2016-12-22 22:01
First, I wouldn´t use Sun Ce against dodger or splitter. As I can remember your Sima is weak but ...

I got Sunjian now. I used SMYi, Gjia, Luxun, Zhuge, Zyun (full immu+storm). I just need Zhuge (Zhuge didn't even have chance to cast skill) to take NPC4 skill and die, then Zyun finish NPC4 and Sunjian.

Author: Corvinus Time: 2016-12-23 14:25

secrettask replied at 2016-12-22 23:09
I tried SmYi, Zhuge, Gjia (full immu+storm), Luxun, Zyun. Best try is HGai remain 1 row. I use Pla ...

Congratz!

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