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Author: Corvinus    Time: 2016-7-19 16:55
Title: Strategy of defeating Jiang Wei with Guo Jia tank
Edited by Corvinus at 2016-7-19 20:11

Wanna new pet? You´re at good place. First of all I got Jiang Wei easily as I have Liu Bei, whichgives me +10% attack rate. Soooo just for sharing informations with you I let him drink in Tavern for a while and tried to get Jiang Wei again but without him and his attack bonus. If you follow this strategy, you won´t need Zhuge Liang.


General usefull tips:

1.      Arma full, Chariot lvl 5. at least.
2.      Sima Yi. All the level 131 save your wood and exp book for Sima just to level him up as fast as you can. We won´t need him block but we need him to be 100% in casting skill.
3.      Polish. From lvl 123 where I got Sun CeI polished 4 stars up. So I have clash damage horcrux but not use it as I needed to lvl up chariot first, except of situation where no othersuitable hrcrx is to be found.
4.      Gems- crystals from up to the bottom arma : ***,**lvl2,**,**,**,**
5.      Horcruxes – Storm 26% resistances 20%, Rebound23%. Didn´t lvl up from Sun Ce.
6.      Tank, ladies and gents good old Guo Jia will do miracles once again if equiped with Storm and (if possible) full Immu suit, +3+3 liegeman combo, (at least) Dragon 14 and attack 7000.
7.       Star atlas. I have 4 Dragon 13 and one Tiger 1 Star Atlas (Guo Jia). Dragon 13& 14 are Lead and Force bonuses which you are going to need for blocking and killing.
8.      Suits&Equip – the best choice you have is to equip your all terrain fella Sun Ce with Dragon suit, Guo Jia as many Immu as you have and other generals should wear mixture of Attack, Harm and Immu.
9.      Chariot – my chariot was lvl 6 whenI entered the instance, but remember, the higher chariot, the higher attack and defense so easiest way to get my stats is to have higher chariot than mine. If you have fire chariot, stop reading as you probably won´t need no advice for the instance.
10.   Basic strategy for this instance is to get Guo Jia as far as it gets so we are gonna use tactic of shutting skills of first NPC with Sima Yi, then let second NPC be reflected (the best from his third row so that he damages third NPC), then reflect weakened third NPC, kill him and finally reflect fourth NPC. Then it´s our three generals against two NPC with only one skill, which should be piece of cake.  Remember your Sima Yi MUST die before second NPC cast his skill as this is most efficient for you. It´s because of second NPC being reflected and the reflection hits first row of third NPC.This version of Sima Guo combo is for people who know how to regulate troops dying and people with weaker Sima Yi. People with stronger Sima Yi could have problems with regulating troops (e.g. use tactic that will lose with youroponent´s tactic so Sima dies sooner) as he somehow doesn´t want to die that easily. In this case you can use combo version Guo-Sima which should let you have enough troops for final bosses even if you don´t block it. This version can also work better on plains and in forests as Sima has terrain advantage.You can also try to lock both first and second NPC which is also good tactic, but you´ll lose kills made by reflection of second NPC. So these were three possibilities of using interactions between Sima Yi and Guo Jia.


1.      Liao Hua (mountain)

Formation (in order of appearance on thebattlefield)



This stage is pretty easy if you have my stats, but it should be easy even with lower stats than mine. First ofall, lock first NPC with Sima Yi skill, then wait until you kill rows that was hit by it. After this, shoot the second skill into fourth row of second NPC. Now it´s time for Sima to die so let him. Guo Jia will probably kill all the rest, but will definitely reflect all NPCs that left. You are able to kill remaining few rows with your 12 rows.

2.      Cao Zhen (mountain)


Formation (in order of appearance on thebattlefield)


Pretty much the same stage as previous so use the same combo. This time I have problems with Sima Yi as some thousand troops left him when second NPC shot his skill so Guo was weakened but still he reflected until fourth NPC and died by his last row. So if you manage Sima to die, you will definitely reflect even Cao Zhen. The rest of generals easily finish him off.

3.      Wang Ping (forest)


Wang Ping is dodger so use combo Lu Xun +Sun Ce.


Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)


After first skill of Sima Yi I killed first NPC with three rows of Sima standing so I tried to take shot of second NPC ( if shot, I would probably have Guo Jia hit with postponed skill of second NPC, which i didn´t want to) but Sima blocked,killed second NPC and locked third. Even though Wang Ping is dodger, I killed him with Guo Jia and shot from Zhao Yun´s chariot. For those who has weaker tanks – shot Lu Xun´s skil either into last row of fourth NPC or first row of Wang Ping. This should kill one third of his row for 5 rounds so even if he is a dodger, Sun Ce has so many troops that he will kill him.


4.       Sima Shi (city)

Sima Shi has crititical damage infliction ability (the same as Guan Yu).

Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)


This one is joke for Guo Jia so I let the formation unchanged. You can try to switch Sun Ce or Lu Xun for Zhang Fei if you have problems. And people with weaker tanks should once again employ Zhou Tai and Lu Meng, with these two you´ll definitely win.  So If you have Guo Jia comparable with mine, you need only Sima and Guo, and Guo will left one row standing.


5.       Sima Zhao (mountain)


Sima Zhao is splitter.

Formation (in order of appearance on thebattlefield)


Here it is easy to let Sima die as the first NPC has mountain defense so you will easy place skills on proper rows. Then your Guo Jia reflects at least until fourth NPC. With a bit of luck, you will be able to reflect even Sima Zhao (half of row missed to do this), but remember this one is really strong splitter so do not place Zhang Fei in the way he could hit him with skill. Rather sacrifice Zhao Yun as Zhang Fei could hurt Sima badly with his splitting, then Sun Ce let him rest in pieces. I did this two time swithout Liu Bei, as first time I placed Zhao Yun fourth. Let Zhao Yun eatthe skill of Sima, then use Zhang Fei to kill first two rows and weaken second two, then Sun Ce will  do the rest.  The weakest of you can replace Zhao Yun with Lu Xun and try to skill Sima Zhao through last row of fourth NPC; once successfull, you have fire on your side so it should be even easier than with Zhao Yun. Just remember, if you don´t block Sima Zhao, you´ll lose four rows so count whats better for you, whether set fire earlier or have less Lu Xun rows to lose.
Author: Corvinus    Time: 2016-7-19 16:55
Edited by Corvinus at 2016-7-22 14:21

6.        Zhang He (city)

Zhang He has terrain negation ability, but it is useless for him as we only need Guo Jia to reflect him, which is piece of cake..

Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)
1.        Sima Yi, lvl 92, Attack 6703, Defense 3367, Troops 10650, RA 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
2.        Guo Jia lvl. 116, Attack 7095, Defense 3621, Troops 11504, Storm 26%, Superlantern +23 +23
3.        Zhao Yun lvl. 107 Attack 6726, Defense 3367, Troops 10939, Resist Mechanization 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
4.        Lu Xun lvl. 106 Attack 7101, Defense 3412, Troops 10508, RD 20%  Superslotted +17 + 17
5.        Zhang Fei lvl. 100 Attack 6835, Defense 3359, Troops 10625, RC 20%  Superslotted +17 + 17

Very similar to Sima Shi instance. Proper using of combo Sima-Guo results in reflecting all NPC´s, then Guo is going to die on blade of Zhang He because of his terrain negation ability. But it is easy to kill Zhang he with three generals left.

7.        Sima Yi (mountain)

SIma Yi has his double skill ability. It´s a bit more difficult stage I needed to do two times to pass as I made formation mistake (put Zhao  Yun instead Sun Ce) and had wrong horcrux distribution (first time put RD on Lu Xun).

Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)
1.        Sima Yi, lvl 92, Attack 6703, Defense 3367, Troops 10650, RA 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
2.        Guo Jia lvl. 116, Attack 7095, Defense 3621, Troops 11504, Storm 26%, Superlantern +23 +23
3.        Sun Ce lvl. 106, Attack 6628, Defense 3467, Troops 13552, RD  20%, Superslotted +18 +18
4.        Lu Xun lvl. 106 Attack 7108, Defense 3414, Troops 10512, Charge 16% (4lvl)  Superlantern +23 +23
5.        Zhang Fei lvl. 100 Attack 6835, Defense 3359, Troops 10625, RC 20%  Superslotted +17 + 17

Easy to do Sima-Guo trick as first NPC has mountain defense. Then you´ll be able to reflect „only“ until fourth NPC, but that is more than enough. Sun Ce kills fourth NPC, takes first shot from Sima, then dies. Lu Xun set Sima on fire and dies on his second skill (if not blocked, i was lucky to block). Zhang Fei uses splitting to kill Sima then.

8.        Zhao Yun (forest)

Zhao Yun is dodger, so we are gonna use firestarter and dodger against him. Fourth NPC is 20% splitter so we are gonna use Sun Ce´s terrain ability and Iron fist.This stage is the most difficult as all NPC´s are terrain and all are horses. Zhao Yun himself has great dodge rate so we will burn him a little before eating.


Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)
1.        Sima Yi, lvl 92, Attack 6703, Defense 3367, Troops 10650, RA 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
2.        Guo Jia lvl. 116, Attack 7095, Defense 3621, Troops 11504, Storm 26%, Superlantern +23 +23
3.        Sun Ce lvl. 106, Attack 6628, Defense 3467, Troops 13552, RC  20%, Superslotted +18 +18
4.        Lu Xun lvl. 106 Attack 7103, Defense 3414, Troops 10512, Charge 16% (4lvl) Superslotted +17 + 17
5.        Zhao Yun lvl. 107 Attack 6728, Defense 3369, Troops 10943, RD 20%, Superlantern +23 +23

Easy to do Sima-Guo trick as first NPC has plains assault. Guo Jia reflects until fourth NPC then dies killed by second row of fourth NPC. Sun Ce kills fourth NPC with last row standing, takes  shot from Zhao Yun, then dies with first three rows of Lu Xun.  Lu Xun sings „This girl is on fire“ and dies on spears of Zaho Yun´s first row. After this entrance Zhao Yun is so hot he needs to put his armor off so even if dodging bravely, you will kill him burning with your Zhao Yun. Remember to use Plains Assault as often as you could as dodger is not able to dodge clash damage.

9.        Zhuge Liang (City)

Kongming is my favourite hero from Romance of Three Kingdoms and here he has critical damage ability. All NPC´s are terrain so if my formation doesn´t work for you, use Lu Meng and Zhou Tai again, this will be easy for you. I put resist infantry horcrux on Sima as first NPC is terrain infantry, so that Sima could survive until second row of second NPC. Fourth NPC has raising capacity with diminishing troops ability (as Dian Wei)  

Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)
1.        Sima Yi, lvl 92, Attack 6703, Defense 3367, Troops 10650, RI 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
2.        Guo Jia lvl. 116, Attack 7095, Defense 3621, Troops 11504, Storm 26%, Superlantern +23 +23
3.        Zhao Yun lvl. 107 Attack 6728, Defense 3369, Troops 10943, RC 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
4.        Lu Xun lvl. 106 Attack 7103, Defense 3414, Troops 10512, RD 23%  Superslotted +17 + 17
5.        Zhang Fei lvl. 100 Attack 6835, Defense 3359, Troops 10625, Resist mechanics 20%  Superslotted +17 + 17

Use Sima-Guo trick so that your Sima dies before second NPC will shot his skill. Guo Jia will reflect all including Zhuge Liang. Then i tis easy to burn Kongming´s ass a little and finish him either with Lu Xun or Yide.  Once again, if this is not working for you switch Zhao Yun and Zhang Fei for Lu Meng an Zhou Tai, that is easiest way to win this instance.

10.        Jiang Wei (mountain)

Jaing Wei´s skill is Eightfold Maze,  which except of four rows skill impact means that until you are standing inside of maze you will probably miss him. So he is a dodger for five rounds. We will equal this ability by lots of meat standing in front of him, with a bit of fire. Fourth NPC is 70% splitter and third one has terrain negation, which doesn´t matter as you will kill him with Guo Jia.

Formation (in order of appearance on the battlefield)
1.        Sima Yi, lvl 92, Attack 6703, Defense 3367, Troops 10650, RA 20%, Superlantern +23 +23
2.        Guo Jia lvl. 116, Attack 7095, Defense 3621, Troops 11504, Storm 26%, Superlantern +23 +23
3.        Sun Ce lvl. 106, Attack 6628, Defense 3467, Troops 13552, RC  20%, Superlantern +23 +23
4.        Lu Xun lvl. 106 Attack 7108, Defense 3414, Troops 10512, Charge 16% (4lvl)  Superslotted +17 +17
5.        Zhang Fei lvl. 100 Attack 6835, Defense 3359, Troops 10625, RD 23%  Superslotted +18 + 18

Use Sima-Guo trick so that your Sima dies before second NPC will shoot his skill. Guo Jia will reflect until fourth NPC. This one is 70% splitter but he is really weak so Sun Ce will almost kill him or kill him while he dies too. Then shoot Lu Xun´s fire through last row of 4th NPC or straight into Jang Wei. Burning Jiang Wei will kill all the Lu Xun troops with his skill (except of he was blocked). Zhang Fei will kill him easily by splitting damage on next rows.  

Hope this was helpfull to all younger players, and once again, have fun with your new pet guys.
Author: Birdwarne    Time: 2016-7-19 19:06
You dont tired typing yeah?
Author: Hendy_wizard    Time: 2016-7-19 20:00
Birdwarne replied at 2016-7-19 19:06
You dont tired typing yeah?

In fact we should thanks to Corvinus. He is showing his passion to share.hehehehe...It's just so great we could have another strategy to get Jiang Wei...with Guo Jia. Even me myself gpt Jiang wei without ever know how to use Guo Jia in this elite inst. Thanks bro...Corvinus.
Author: valium    Time: 2016-7-19 21:14
I pass jwei stage wz 3 immu onli without zgliang. So its up 2 diff pple use diff strategies on playin. Frankly speakin i read d forum 4 steategies but does nt work for me bt it sure fun 2 read. Good job
Author: Daveltl76    Time: 2016-7-19 22:11
Edited by Daveltl76 at 2016-7-20 10:03
valium replied at 2016-7-19 21:14
I pass jwei stage wz 3 immu onli without zgliang. So its up 2 diff pple use diff strategies on playi ...

U can share ur way bro, so players who have same stats like u can follow ur path
The purpose of elite map guides is sharing as many ways as possible; so that more players will find the one which can be useful for them
Author: valium    Time: 2016-7-20 11:44
Can pm zme 4 it. I can teach d tricks n tactics as a guide.
Author: secrettask    Time: 2016-10-24 22:26
Corvinus replied at 2016-7-19 16:55
6.        Zhang He (city)

Zhang He has terrain negation ability, but it is useless for him as we on ...

What if we put tank gjia at 1st position? It seems hard for me to adjust SMYi like you. Now I'm at Stage5 and my atk is just abit lower than you. But overall, my stat is lower than you. I got LiuBei and 1 full immune. Mountain terrain is abit hard for me as my zfei, guanyu, sunce is not so strong but I have mylu and zgliang.
Author: Corvinus    Time: 2016-10-26 19:05
secrettask replied at 2016-10-24 22:26
What if we put tank gjia at 1st position? It seems hard for me to adjust SMYi like you. Now I'm at ...

If you have Zhuge Liang then simply use his buff to enhance damage capability of Guo Jia. He should be able to get in front of Zhang He  then kill him with rest of the pack.
Author: FanofBabes    Time: 2016-10-26 23:59
Hi,

Nice guide.
But I prefer awake zfei method to clear Jwei instance..
Its easier with just Simayi + awaken Zfei can clear almost all stages.
2k Chariot will make it smoother
Author: Corvinus    Time: 2016-11-7 16:25
FanofBabes replied at 2016-10-26 23:59
Hi,

Nice guide.

Yes, that´s true as so many of stages are mountain terrain. Yet I didn´t want to waste so many tokens on Zhang Fei, who is fragile against skill and better save tokens for Zhang Jiao. But I have to admit, that is probably the easiest way to get Jiang Wei. My strategy is aimed for people who want to use Guo Jia until they get Sun Jian.
Author: secrettask    Time: 2016-11-7 22:45
Edited by secrettask at 2016-11-7 22:55
Corvinus replied at 2016-11-7 16:25
Yes, that´s true as so many of stages are mountain terrain. Yet I didn´t want to waste so many t ...

I got Jwei last night. My line up: SMyi Gjia Sunce Zhuge Zyun (full immu, storm). 1st row of Zyun can destroy whole npc4 and manage to block Jwei. Then 2nd row of Zyun finish Jwei.

I feel Jwei is not so strong. Should I use him long or not? I will get Zjiao in a month and my gen now is Gjia Zyun Zhuge Sunce Luxun. I feel Jwei is not much better than Luxun.

And I don't really understand how Jwei skill work? That 8FoldMaze.
Author: Corvinus    Time: 2016-11-7 23:12
secrettask replied at 2016-11-7 22:45
I got Jwei last night. My line up: SMyi Gjia Sunce Zhuge Zyun (full immu, storm). 1st row of Zyun  ...

Yes, once you block Jiang Wei, he is not that difficult to beat in instance.

Jiang Wei is worth to train if you want to awaken him later.

Jiang Wei is good but he needs to be used in combo with other generals. I found accidentaly that if you cast his skill Eightfold maze and then shoot skill of another hero through the maze, the damage will be much much higher and despite of maze is efficient only for one row in melee combat, the skill damage taken by rows that are not standing in maze will be as high as the damage taken by row standing in the maze. This is very useful in trial tower, biography and star atlas, as you can hurt final bosses very badly.

Now my favourite tactics with Jiang Wei are these :

1. Jiang Wei + Zhao Yun combo - if you cast JW skill from last row (depends on blocking ability, I used to cast from first row if knowing the opponent will wipe all JW army with skill) followed by Zhao Yun, you probably kill a lot with Zhao Yun´s skill and get amazing miss rate for few rounds as Zhao Yun´s miss ability is greatly enhanced by Jiang Wei´s maze.

2. Jiang Wei + Sun Ce - you´ll have Sun Ce with miss ability for few rounds.

3. Jiang Wei + Zhuge Liang - together with Zhuge´s buff, extremely efficient on water as Zhuge is good blocker so you´ll enjoy a lot of miss rounds with Zhuge buffed.

Also other type of cooperation should be nice (with Zhang Fei (used it often in trial tower) and Guan Yu (don´t like this general´s ability).

One more notice - I use Jiang Wei as caster  and very rarely as melee damage dealer, therefore I equipped him with full attack armor bcs. attack enhances also skill attack of general. So his skill damage was very good and if he managed to survive enemy´s skill, he was quite good damage dealer.

Author: Corvinus    Time: 2016-11-7 23:24
And for Eightfold maze : it decreases capability (attack + defense) of opponent´s row in maze for 5 rounds with a chance for miss Jiang Wei´s row in melee combat. I find it better than Lu Xun´s skill. As for me, I am lvl 142 now and use Guo Jia, Zhuge Liang, Jiang Wei, Sima Yi and Zhao Yun. Heroes that I often train are Sun Ce and Liu Bei. But when I will get Zhang Jiao and Sun Jian, my line up will be Zhuge Liang, Sun Jian, Zhang Liao, Sima Yi and Zhao Yun with Sun Ce, Guo Jia, Liu Bei and Jiang Wei in battalion.
Author: secrettask    Time: 2016-11-7 23:27
Corvinus replied at 2016-11-7 23:12
Yes, once you block Jiang Wei, he is not that difficult to beat in instance.

Jiang Wei is worth t ...

Thank you so much for the detail explanation. I may not be able to awake him but I will try to use him. It's so hard to save atoken and I want to awake Zyun only. If it take too long, maybe awake ZJiao.
Author: Armweak    Time: 2017-3-15 13:52
Corvinus replied at 2016-11-7 23:24
And for Eightfold maze : it decreases capability (attack + defense) of opponent´s row in maze for 5 ...

my z.yun block jiang wei skill..and he finished by z.yun....
i think gjia and sunce's map is hardest than jiang wei map....
Author: donjuan    Time: 2017-3-15 15:01
At first I dont like Jiangwei, but now he is great asset to me.
I put him in front of Zfei so he can cast skill at his last row, thus Zfei would deal higher skill damage to opponent, suffer lower skill damage and more probability to dodge enemy common attacks.

I learn that when eightfold maze casted, jiangwei's ability to dodge is lesser than other general.
you will have better dodging probability when other general is enjoying jiangwei's eightfold maze.



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