Strategy of defeating Lu Xun with lower Immu and no special general

boost

fancyp4nts replied at 2016-1-13 03:17
Your stats are as Corvinus said; good for first 5 stage.  To pass the latter stages you would defi ...

Just an update since my last post...  

Now have super lantern (chose to have atk as attributes) and just got 3rd full immu, storm is now 26%, going to increase improve tactics (currently at 10%) and the gem to level 12 and burnish the other atk crystal. Ini is 6600.  Another lantern + 23......

Lady luck not smiling at me.  The 1st 5 stages were easy as stated, stuck on Lu Meng now. Xiang's skill all 1s on general.  Have removed tactics / tricks from Zhou Yu.   Just keep refining using free refine and adv refine from crusade.

The best effort was Xu and Xiang block, Zhou did not block, meet Lu Meng and he left 1 full row!  Get the occasional Xu block and Zhou block and left 2 row Lu Meng.  The 4th gen is a beast!  I am taking my time now hehe.

Currently Floor 8 - stage 16. Star (Dragon) at last stage - Lu Bu

Wenji	102	5377	2589	8748	S.Jade
Guo	101	5319	2463	8497	S.Jade
Xiang	99	5241	2594	8600	S.Jade
Xu	98	5437	2434	8095	3 immu	atk-immu - immu	atk 4*
Zhou	98	5304	2491	8866	S.Slot
GEM	Crystal burnish L1	Crystal	Crystal	Crystal	Crystal	L10
Arma	115	115	115	115	115	115

Corvinus

boost replied at 2016-1-13 07:28
Just an update since my last post...  

Now have super lantern (chose to have atk as attributes) an ...

Hi boost, that´s amazing progress you have done. You can do it now with some portion of luck at Lu Meng stage. Remember, Lu meng himself is weak, the main problem is either to block or reflect him and as you noticed fourth general is the strongest of bunch. Keep trying and don´t worry, after Lu Meng, Lu Xun stage is easy.  

Corvinus

BeamTo1999 replied at 2016-1-13 02:56
Hi Covinus ! I realy like everything u posted. Its so helpful. Btw, my lv now just 111, and I tried  ...

Hi Beam,

from what you wrote I can not tell if your power is sufficient as I don´t know necessary parameters as attck/defense/troops, hrcrx and immu. But if you are in stage 20 of 8th floor TT, then it´s  probable you will get Lu Xun very soon, although as i mentioned those stages you passed lately are not too difficult. Definitely you will easily beat first five stages, maybe seven. Definitely start instance once it opens, for strategy experience at least.

Keep getting stronger, remember these stats you get stays with you for future playing. Good luck.

Corvinus

BeamTo1999 replied at 2016-1-13 05:58
Hi there ! U said u alreay got LX ,that means u r an exp player . My I ask u : what high init for  ...

Init itself is very  tricky parameter. It is not that helpful as lots of people think. High init is good to make you attacker in arena or in tournament. But think about this - you have 5 generals which can have very good combo of purple liegemen but the same genereals would have greater init once you give six full star yellow liegemen to all. Also you can have high init bcs of defense and improve tactics hrcrx but thats quite useless in special instance. Level of generals is next tricky thing. If we both have same general but you have lvl 90 and I have 100, this means i have 20 more init. But 20 init means also 10 lvl of armament so which gen will be stronger - the one with lvl 90 and arma 100 or the one with lvl 100 and arma 90 ? Lets just say its attack arma, then you have +50 (basic) attack for EACH hero and I have +30 attack for this one general. As for my current army, my highest hero has level 103. My "strongest" hero (lvl 100) has Attack 6174. I have no problem beat people with highest general over lvl 110.

The moral of the story is (except of "forge before leveling up general too high" :-) ) is  don´t mind init. It´s just number for orientation.

BeamTo1999

Corvinus replied at 2016-1-13 17:01
Init itself is very  tricky parameter. It is not that helpful as lots of people think. High init i ...

Hi Corvinus !
Thx for ur replies! yesterday I passed stage 20 already, and now I meet LiuBei stage 25. Also sart lv 112 .
My stats: 5100+   2500+  8000+ . Gjia wenji Xc ZY max foster ( mean max att foster ) just Sxiang foster 1/3 , cuz I want to set sxiang as second gen . just worry she s so strong , let Gjia hard to rebound next NPC. will foster her more when need .
6 immu 4stars  Dragon suit    100% equips 4stars all gen  polish 20 stars only    chariot lv 2  dragon 5 all gens     2lanter    2slotte   1jade
Hoxcrux : storm 30%, cavalry20%, Machinazation resist 22%, infantry 10%, Archer 10%
Gems : crystal, 11,11,12,11,11,12
Arma : 112    111   111   111   111   68
I read ur posted many many time , and I followed it to prepare every thing start the first day I get XChu. ur formation u post did helped me a lot even in trial. Thx for all !
Think just 10days more reach lv 113.
Btw. I passed stage 20 after Deploy Mchao to wenji. Mchao used 4 full imu ( I have some extra ) very strong in mountain . He worked better my wenji in this stage and helped me pass. other way last npc has split att. so I use ZY last. NPC ate my Gjia rebound and ZY skill , so his troop just around 3000 each row, easy for my ZY (storm 30%) finished him with ttroop 8000.
So that also makes me confuse about use wenji or Mchao , cuz my Mchao just lv 84 only and no foster att all lol .
Could u give me an Idea for that ?
Thank you and have a good day Corvinus !

Corvinus

BeamTo1999 replied at 2016-1-13 21:59
Hi Corvinus !
Thx for ur replies! yesterday I passed stage 20 already, and now I meet LiuBei stag ...

Hi, if you are at lvl. 25 of 8th floor and have such equipment (Strorm 30% impressive), Lu Xun instance should be easy for you.
You should increase your resist infantry and archer horcruxes. You will miss rebound damage horcrux but it is possible to get Lu Xun without it.

Now to your question of Ma Chao vs. Wenji. I obtained Wenji three days ago and now I am testing her. I find her very usefull except of situation where she takes shot from enemy´s skill, but her splitting is splendid weapon.

The question itself is a bit hard bcs Wenji splits three rows but then again none of the stages in Lu Xun is water. So her terrain talent is of no importance. Ma Chao on the other hand is all terrain. Lvl 84 is not important, whats important is attack/ def and force, so if you wanna use him you should foster him or give him some supertrinket with attack. I would test both of them in instance in stages where one of them fails. Do not rely on fixed formation of generals, Battalion has 7 slots so you can just switch their armor and use different hero. I think first 7-8 stages will be easy for you. Lu Meng is pain in the ass for all but Lu Xun easy again.

BeamTo1999

Corvinus replied at 2016-1-13 23:51
Hi, if you are at lvl. 25 of 8th floor and have such equipment (Strorm 30% impressive), Lu Xun ins ...

Hi Corvinus !
I agree with ur idea . But now I have 1 set immu in XC , and 4 extra immu 4 stars : can I put them all in MChao ? Or just att only sir ? Don't think  I have many soul to foster him from now. Other way my s.iron just 30k now ( collected from crusade ) so what hoxcurx u think I have to up : Infantry or archer ? Thx a lot !

fancyp4nts

boost replied at 2016-1-13 07:28
Just an update since my last post...  

Now have super lantern (chose to have atk as attributes) an ...

If you're stuck on Lumeng, means that you can't melee and block NPC efficiently enough; if your init is that high already then you shouldn't need to rely on putting xuchu first and depend on immu.  I passed this stage with 6630 if i remembered correctly, but passed with 2 rebounds from guojia and 1 block from wenji.  If zyu were able to block as well then I could have passed with 2 gens left.  Try putting guojia first; give him mech resist and he should be able to rebound 1&2 (mine had dragon suit); next wenji was able to finish second and block third, which means she finished off third gen as well; rest of formation is xiang, zyu (storm for him) and machao (can use xuchu if you like in this case, chaos can help with melee)

boost

fancyp4nts replied at 2016-1-14 02:49
If you're stuck on Lumeng, means that you can't melee and block NPC efficiently enough; if your in ...

Thanks fancyp4nts, might give this a shot except I got no suit... hehe.

Thanks Corvinus - need lady luck now!

Corvinus

BeamTo1999 replied at 2016-1-14 01:26
Hi Corvinus !
I agree with ur idea . But now I have 1 set immu in XC , and 4 extra immu 4 stars : ...

Well, just checked the instance. There are 3 stages where you need fight archers but there are no infantrymen. So I would say first archer but then again, there are some stages where are three infantry general so you will need both. Start with archer, then infantry then archer and so on. 18% was enough for both in my case; if you have one set immu, 16% will be OK.